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How ironic is it that the day after my wee little boy lifts 10 bucks from his dads bedside table, I come face to face, during the regular course of my work life, with someone involved in the break-in of our house over a year ago. Funny story (not funny ha-ha) that I can’t really share; but had to mention it because I thought the irony was thick.
So yes, Thor lifted money off his Dad’s table – and sometime there after came to me with a story of where it was “found”. I posted my dilemma on the forum, because we were fairly sure he had stolen it and I wasn’t sure I was taking the right action – didn’t want to back him into a corner, but also seemed like one of those things that shouldn’t be ignored.
For those of you who don’t read the forum (and why don’t you?); here is my correspondence with Vicki;
Morning,
So we have a wee bit of a thief – Thor has helped himself to a $10 bill that his Dad unloaded from his pants pocket onto his bedside table. Last night (when Dad was out) Thor came to me and told me that he found it in the woods “that time we had friends over”. It seemed like an odd time to tell me this, so my radar went up a bit, but at this point didn’t know about the $10 bucks on his Dad’s bedside. He asked what he should do with and I said “well I guess if you found it in the woods it’s hard to be sure who it belongs to and therefore difficult to give it back to them”. I left it open-ended on purpose. This morning in the space of about 10 minutes we heard two different stories of where it was found, once found at school and he asked his teachers about it and they told him to keep it and the finally story was that he found it at another schools playground. My feeling is to just let it go and hope that he fesses up to where it was “found”; but I just wanted to reach out to you in case you had some extra wisdom to impart.

Thank you, as always.
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Morning,
Miss you. Lets have breakfast okay. Yeah, I would let it go – knowing your child. ALERT - I am talking specifically to this parent whose child I know. So please, if you are reading this, don’t jump to conclusions about how I would deal with stealing if it was YOUR child. Ask me if you want to know.
I might also set up a situation where you could “lift” something that didn’t belong to you, but that you wanted and ask Thor to help you settle the moral dilemma you are struggling with. That will open up the conversation. And then I would bring it to Family Meeting around your value identification and mission statement and talk about all the ways it could destroy a family.
He is ready for this. Love that kid.
V
SO. I found myself alone in the car with Thor this evening and the little voice in my head was saying “DO IT”. Oh. It was such an un-natural feeling, and I am fairly sure that he picked up on that because at some point during the conversation about my dilemma he asked (I kid you not) “Is this story for real?”. Ugh. It wasn’t quite what Vicki suggested, I hadn’t actually “lifted” something from someone, but I explained to him that there was something on a co-workers desk that I really wanted and it was just sitting there on their desk, so I was thinking about taking it. He asked some questions like “what is it?”, “don’t they want it?”. I can’t remember what else he asked. It was all so strange feeling. He said that it was on their desk, so that it was theirs and wasn’t something I should take. I asked why I couldn’t, he said, “because maybe they will need it”. He did suggest that maybe I should ask the next time at work if it (and “it” was a vase by the way – lame, I know) was something that person wanted, and if not, maybe they would let me have it. So I think maybe I need to actually take something – well, pretend to – and give this another go. Because what this conversation didn’t allow was him helping me figure out what to do once I had already taken the vase/$10 bill.

Hey Sista,
I was thinking maybe you could think about snagging something from say Talula and justify that she might not miss it or that she might not notice, or that you really need it, or want it or that if it was imortant to T, she would have taken better care of it. The goal is to act as if you are contemplating taking something that isn’t yours, and then saying outload all the ways you might justify it and THEN look at Thor and curiously say – “What do YOU think I should do?” He might not get the connection immediately, but it isnt’ about that. It’s about opening up the conversation.
Just remember this could be a passing, one time thing and it could be a matter of trying it out a few times and you could be raising a true clepto LOL. What mattes is that you are honest and you open up the conversation and challenge assumptions, etc.
Yeah, so, did you answer me about Bfast???
I will be interested in seeing how this all works out. Good job not confronting him right off about it. If you are anything like me and T is anything like my dd (8) (which I think we know they are)
It would not have gone well. It takes a lot of self control to slow down and think. Which is an excellent skill for a mom to have.
I was thinking on the same lines as Vicki, maybe actually contemplate/ taking something of someone’s in the house so he can actually see it. Make it real.
Another discussion I need to have with the kids is about ‘found’ money. Vicki emphasizes that the kids are responsibility for their own money. If they leave it around and someone else finds it then it’s theirs. However, I have had incidents in the house where one of the kids sets down their money to do something and the other one comes up from behind and takes it. Each has claimed it as ‘found money’ and that usually leads to a fight between them. So I need to explain that just because money is not in a wallet does not make it fair game. If you know who it belongs to then it should be given back. Correct me if I’m wrong Vicki. In the real world if you walked past someone’s desk at work and saw $10 and took it you could be fired (worst case) and it is stealing. If you found $10 on the floor at work or school you would ask people near by if it was theirs before keeping it. And if you knew whose money it was you would give it back. Shouldn’t it be the same at home.
Just some thoughts.
OK. Stealing something it is….hope I’m better at that than pretending to want to steal something.